tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14400013.post115195644118802184..comments2023-06-04T04:20:56.501-04:00Comments on Diatribes - Computer, Economic & Political: Building from source sucksUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14400013.post-1166675823867976852006-12-20T23:37:00.000-05:002006-12-20T23:37:00.000-05:00It's the same old cry about open source.There stil...It's the same old cry about open source.<BR/><BR/>There still are people (higher up in corporate ladder) who can't operate a Win PC.<BR/><BR/>Other point is people seek comfort zones and care less to learn what works behind the scenes. More of an attitude problem than an 'educate and correct' phenomenon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14400013.post-1152683886298304132006-07-12T01:58:00.000-04:002006-07-12T01:58:00.000-04:00@jack - You are absolutely right, when I said "suc...@jack - You are absolutely right, when I said "sucked" I meant it is difficult and no fun. Of course that is what I usually mean when most people I know say suck, but perhaps we should be more exact. <BR/><BR/>I knew people would react like this, but for explanatory power, let me make this clear. I read documentation prior to trying to build something from source. And I read man pages, help forums and any resource I can get at when it doesn't work. <BR/><BR/>I strongly believe your experience of having "never once run run into a problem compiling from source that couldn't have been avoided by reading the docs" is abnormal. I hope you aren't lying, but in any event - this is very atypical for most reasonably competent people who have built a medium or larger size app from source. <BR/><BR/>@SSN - There are source-based distros that handle this for you. I agree 100%. But building everything from source is probably not necessary. Portage is amazing, I loved FreeBSD for a long time, I still do. But I'm not talking about FreeBSD or Gentoo's portage - emerge rocks, but what about the .tar.gz you get from sf.net that isn't in the tree or the repositories. Even on Gentoo, NOT all the problems with source I mentioned are ironed out.jambaramahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11571498254549066626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14400013.post-1152268675864890402006-07-07T06:37:00.000-04:002006-07-07T06:37:00.000-04:00sorry but this is bullshit. there are a lot of sou...sorry but this is bullshit. there are a lot of source distris out there that handle a lot of the "problems" you mentioned.<BR/>im using gentoo and im completly satisfied with how portage does its job.simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01362778605454040938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14400013.post-1152255112110797492006-07-07T02:51:00.000-04:002006-07-07T02:51:00.000-04:00there's a difference between saying something suck...there's a difference between saying something <B>sucks</B>, and something is <B>difficult</B>. Your article clearly states that compiling from source sucks. I will admit that it can be rather difficult without reading the documentation first, but i have never once run into a problem compiling from source that couldn't have been avoided by reading the docs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14400013.post-1152253670831643372006-07-07T02:27:00.000-04:002006-07-07T02:27:00.000-04:00It is totally fair to call my post "awful" and cla...It is totally fair to call my post "awful" and claim that it highlights a "lack of knowledge and patience." <BR/><BR/>You are probably right, but rather than just assert that this is true, call me out! Show me where I am lacking understanding? <BR/><BR/>From my perspective, it very nice of developers/contributors to distribute binaries! I just don't think they should have to. <BR/><BR/>In my opinion (which you clearly disagree with, which is fine) source shouldn't be so hard to compile that only an elite few can create binaries.jambaramahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11571498254549066626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14400013.post-1152253413724943692006-07-07T02:23:00.000-04:002006-07-07T02:23:00.000-04:00this is an awful post that just highlights the use...this is an awful post that just highlights the users lack of knowledge and patience. But you are correct in one aspect, that packages exist for lame users who have no idea what the hell they are doing. I can't argue against ones right to be ignorant.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com